1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Tonight on Ghost Hunters Revelations. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Andy, that shot everything down. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Josh Gates from Syfy's Destination Truth 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 hosts an exclusive one-of-a-kind gathering. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 How did all of this begin? 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 I had the personal experience. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 For the first time ever, TAPS responds to your emails. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Heather from Gainesville, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Amy from Myrtle Point, Oregon, 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Fred and Toledo, 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Stephanie from Philly Rotage. 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 All of your questions will be answered. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 What happens when something goes wrong? 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Frank! 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Frank! 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 You okay? 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,000 He got lifted up and fell off the ground. 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Whatever it was was moving extremely fast. 19 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 And some of their answers will be questions. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 I'm sorry, you have a cat named Sassy Lash. 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,000 You're very, very sassy. 22 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 A lot of people running around in the dark. 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Josh! 24 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Are you alright? 25 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Woo! 26 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 On Ghost Hunters Revelations. 27 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 TAPS members, you may want to cover your eyes. 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Good evening and welcome to Ghost Hunters Revelations. 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 I'm Josh Gates, host of Sci-Fi's Destination Truth. 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 And I recently had the pleasure of hosting the Ghost Hunters Live Halloween 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 investigation of the Waverly Hills Sanatorium. 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,000 It turned out to be the most watched episode in Ghost Hunters history, 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 with millions of viewers and hundreds of thousands of messages 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 being submitted through the sci-fi.com interactive center. 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 We passed some of those messages along to Jason and Grant 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 in the field throughout the evening, 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 but with so many viewers asking so many questions of TAPS, 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 we decided to have this unprecedented roundtable discussion 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,000 where Jason Grant and other members of the Atlantic Paranormal Society 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,000 would sit down to answer your questions and mine. 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 We start this evening with Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson, 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 the heartbeat of TAPS, the two lead investigators of the organization. 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 First of all, welcome. Thanks for being here. 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Thank you. 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Well, the first question tonight comes from Warren in Miami, Florida, 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 and it's a really good starting point for us. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 He wants to know where TAPS came from. 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000 How did all of this begin? 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I had my own personal experience back when I was about 18, 19, 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 and it just threw me into a field that, you know, 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 I wanted to learn more about. 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 I wanted to learn how some of these things were possible. 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 So we actually started a local group. 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 It was originally Rhode Island Paranormal Society. 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 And from there, Grant and I had met up. 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Grant was actually taking care of the website. 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 I was designing websites. 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 I was trying to build a portfolio, and I came across this site, 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 and I had had my own personal experience that got me interested in the paranormal. 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 I saw his site, saw it was local, and said, hey, you know, no offense, 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 but I need a little bit of work. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 So I called him up and said, hey, let me redesign your site for free, 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 and I'll use it in my portfolio. 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 So we met up and talked very little about the site, 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 and talked a lot about the problems we've had trying to get answers in the paranormal field. 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 When we talk about TAPS, the Atlantic Paranormal Society, 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 is there a mission statement? 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Honestly, you're trying to do your best to just exhaust all the knowledge you have at your disposal. 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 And honestly, we have a lot of resources. 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,000 So when we run out of explanations or potential theories, 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 we're left with something that we don't understand yet, 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 and that's all the paranormal really is. 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Do we have something walking towards us, man? 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Hello? 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Brian? 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 What? 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I'm getting touched. 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 You serious? 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I'm serious. Get the f*** over here. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Where? Where? Where? 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Right f***in' here, man. 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Come on, Paddy. 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Right in the back. Right in the back, right in the back. 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Is he still there? 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 No. 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 That is awesome, man. 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Definite pressure on my back. 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Like somebody was nudging against me. 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 It lasted about four or five seconds. 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Me and Grant were downstairs and we were talking to the family all of a sudden. 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 I felt like somebody was holding a match to my back. 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 I lifted up my shirt and I've got my whole shoulder blade. 93 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 His red and I've got some wall marks on it. 94 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 It was nothing I leaned up against or I scraped up against. 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Is this still hurt? 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Yeah, it burns like hell. 97 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Check this out. 98 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Okay. 99 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 It closes itself. 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 See, there's nobody there. 101 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 That's what I'm talking about. 102 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 That's stuff I've been experiencing. 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 No shadows underneath the door and there's nobody in the mirror right there. 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 The door opened and closed by itself. 105 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 That's what you're saying. 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying right there. 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Oh, that's crazy, dude. 108 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 We've got one other piece of footage we'd like to show you. 109 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Oh, it's amazing. 110 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 The hairs on the back of my neck are standing up. 111 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 There's somebody there. 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Something went in front of us. 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Look. 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Why did that just fall? 115 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Steve, that was tied to the bell. 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I wrapped it around the bell. 117 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Much closer, right here. 118 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Now, that was actually wrapped a couple of times around there. 119 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Something obviously moved that cord. 120 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Did you see that? 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 What's that? 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 What's that? 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Hello? 124 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 The door handle in the closet shook. 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 As if somebody was going to come through the door. 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 I hate morgues. 127 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Oh, God, I hate morgues. 128 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 So this is the room that was filled with jars of formaldehyde and body parts. 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I thought something went right past me. 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 It would be a favor to just rewind quickly because when it first came in, 131 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 I was right on that cabinet. 132 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 What the heck? 133 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 That was a form. 134 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 The two of you are the co-founders of TAPS. 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 You're the lead investigators. 136 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 I notice on the show you are almost always together. 137 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 You investigate together a lot. 138 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Is that a mandate on the show? 139 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Well, we definitely do investigate with other people as well. 140 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,000 But, yeah, anytime I'm out investigating, Grant's always with me. 141 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 We spend so much time together. 142 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 We work together. 143 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Our families hang out together. 144 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 We've been together for 15 plus years. 145 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,000 So it's just anytime I'm out investigating, I know he's right beside me 146 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 and we both have each other's backs. 147 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Do you fight? 148 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 You know, knocked him out a couple of times. 149 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Honestly, I don't... 150 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 I think Grant and I have probably had a handful of arguments. 151 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 But the thing is, and that's out of that many years, 152 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,000 but the thing is Grant and I can have an argument that only lasts 30 seconds. 153 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 We pat each other on the back and go do what we need to do. 154 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 I don't think there's ever been any anger between us. 155 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 No, I think we've always argued about things that other people were doing 156 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 rather than, you know, things about each other. 157 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 One of the questions we got more than any other from viewers 158 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 is what is your favorite episode? 159 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 It's too big a question for just a pat answer, 160 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 so Jason and Grant have chosen their top five episodes. 161 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 We'll be showing highlight clips from those throughout the evening. 162 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 We're going to start with the Eastern State Penitentiary episode. 163 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 What makes this a favorite? 164 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 I think above all other places and pieces of evidence we've caught on the show, 165 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 this one has that lingering enigma. 166 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 We still don't know what that piece of footage is. 167 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 We're still not sure one way or the other, 168 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 and you just find yourself talking in circles. 169 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 It's paranormal, it's not. It's paranormal, it's not. 170 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 And I think that's why it was just such an amazing location all around. 171 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Everybody almost saw this black shadow. 172 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 We caught it on tape, but was someone messing with us or not? 173 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 We just don't know. 174 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 We'll talk about that piece of footage in a second. 175 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 First, here's a look at the investigation of the Eastern State Penitentiary. 176 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 How was that? 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Dude, run! 178 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 You all right, dude? 179 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 What happened? 180 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 It's a f***ing black thing. 181 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 It's a f***ing piece of evidence. 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 A black thing is f***ing... 183 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 We're gonna cross that piece, dude. 184 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 All right, Steve. 185 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Eastern State Penitentiary, man. 186 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 It's rolling. All right. 187 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 F*** is that? 188 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 What? 189 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I can't f***ing make it out. 190 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I don't know what the f*** that is. 191 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Maybe anomalous vapor? 192 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 It's the way it comes into the shot that is blowing me away. 193 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 I understand what you're saying, Grant. 194 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 It's just boom, it's there. 195 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 It starts to get solid, and then the size, and then screw this. 196 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Nice job, Brian. I'll give you that. 197 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Now I want to know what it is. 198 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Well, guys, we're gonna be heading back to Eastern State Penitentiary. 199 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 We've dealt with people trying to pull the wool over our eyes in the past, 200 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 and I want to make sure that this isn't that kind of a scenario. 201 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,000 While you're up there, give us a couple demonstrations going back and forth. 202 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 You ready? 203 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Yeah. 204 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Go. 205 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Tell them to run up and run back as fast as possible. 206 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Start running. 207 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Run. That's not running. 208 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 You gotta run. 209 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Can't run. 210 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 I can't see, dude. 211 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Whenever I start running, the club goes over me. 212 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 I can't even see where the railings are. 213 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 You cannot run away, fans. 214 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Dude, there's no way somebody's running down that hallway. 215 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Yeah, it's similar, but it's really not a match. 216 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 When you start running, you can't see anything. 217 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 You totally lose where you are. 218 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 There's that heaviness. 219 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Like, I can't lift my feet. 220 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 What the f*** was that? 221 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Right up there, right? 222 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 It's freaking off. 223 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 You see that white part of the wall? 224 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Right off the balcony on the left. 225 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 See that white spot up there? 226 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Something just went right by that. 227 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I saw it just go right by. 228 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:43,000 I honestly believe that there's something going on here far beyond what we will ever understand. 229 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,000 I think this place is ranked up there on my list of just active places. 230 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 I think a lot of people want to understand what that black mass was. 231 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 We've got a lot of questions about that. 232 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Could you find a real-world explanation in the end? 233 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 No, we really never could. 234 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Whatever it was was moving extremely fast. 235 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 It came forward and it never looked like it turned around. 236 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 And also, you need to remember, it's such a narrow area. 237 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,000 And also, the railings are only about 3.5 feet tall. 238 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,000 So whatever that object is, it appears to be only about 4.5 feet tall. 239 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 And anything moving at that speed, you really got to worry about falling over the railing. 240 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,000 So we leave the black mass from the eastern state penitentiary squarely in the unexplained column. 241 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Yeah, as of right now, yep. 242 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:36,000 When we return to Ghost Hunters, Revelations, the rest of the TAPS team joins the discussion. 243 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And we get an inside look at the chemistry that makes them the best in the business. 244 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Dave Tango, he's really become like the little brother of everybody. 245 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Then later, we continue our countdown with an unforgettable attack. 246 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Frank! 247 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 What happened? 248 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Frank's alright? 249 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 He's alright. 250 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 We'll put this cord back in the freaking bag. 251 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Didn't put it back in the boot. 252 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Good enough, but now it's all tangled. 253 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 So, do you need some help? 254 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 No, I'm fine. Just get those cords off and leave the place. 255 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I'm just going to be able to punch the wall. 256 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Why are you going to punch a wall? 257 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I'm going to just aggravate it right now. 258 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 But what? 259 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Nothing to know about it. 260 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Just can you give those to me please? 261 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 I'm just gonna land, team. 262 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 That's good. There is right now. 263 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 I got you, Malcolm. 264 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Every time he talks to me with a headlamp in the backpack, I just think of goonies. 265 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Baby. 266 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Go ahead, go. 267 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Spin. 268 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Spin. 269 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 You don't have to bounce. 270 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Just spin. 271 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Your face or your all like that. 272 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 No, no, no. Just my hair. 273 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Okay. 274 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 That's not my hair. 275 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 I really think these cords should be gaff-taped. 276 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 It's a great idea. 277 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 So we can find that door and pick them up. 278 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Here, drill it. 279 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Cool. 280 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Make a wish. 281 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Oh, let's see. 282 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 I want a new car. 283 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 This is it, guys. 284 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Use a flashlight. 285 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Guys are tossing down the wires now. 286 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Keep going. 287 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Oh, watch out now. 288 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Fantastic. Perfect. 289 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 I want a puppy. 290 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 A puppy? 291 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I want my plants to stop dying on me. 292 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 He's just getting everything set. 293 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 He's gonna shut off the lights. 294 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 We got to kick ass, team. 295 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Yes, we do. 296 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Welcome back to Ghost Hunters Revelations, our special discussion with members of TAPS. 297 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 I'm joined now by Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson, the co-founders of TAPS. 298 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Tech manager Steve Gonzales, investigator Dave Tango, and investigator in training Chris Williams. 299 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Let's talk a little bit about how each of you came to TAPS. 300 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Of the three of you that are here now, Steve, you obviously go back the farthest. 301 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 When did you get involved with Jason and Grant? 302 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Many years ago. 303 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 I actually contacted Jay and Grant said, hey, you know, I love the team. 304 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 I'd like to work with you. 305 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 And then from there, we just started hanging out and working together. 306 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,000 One of my first TAPS case and it just blossomed into a friendship and a good working team. 307 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 And a good working relationship and Grant as well. 308 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 And now what we're doing this. 309 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 All right, Dave Tango, let me ask you this. 310 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 How did you come to this group? 311 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Well, I was a part of a ghost group in Jersey, a little ghost group. 312 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And we heard that these guys, they were gonna be in New York City around there. 313 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 And we called them up. 314 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 You know, we said, hey, we have this place in New Jersey that's really, really haunted. 315 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 And we need, you know, their expertise. 316 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 This is Grant. 317 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Hi, Grant. 318 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 How are you doing? 319 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Dave and Ray are going to work with you guys. 320 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 They want to see the equipment we've got, see how it gets set up. 321 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Let's hurry it up. 322 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Good. 323 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 0.2, 0.4, 0.1. 324 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 How's your temperature? 325 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Oh, it goes down to 68 and then goes back to 70. 326 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 I don't get that. 327 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 I don't know why. 328 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 This is open. 329 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 That might be why. 330 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Yep, I agree. 331 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 I like working with Steve. 332 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 You know what he's talking about? 333 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 I'm learning from him. 334 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 All right, man. 335 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Got a subnu recorder. 336 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 It looks like a good one. 337 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 It is. 338 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 It costs like, uh, it was like 680 bucks. 339 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 It's good, Ben. 340 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Oh, yeah. 341 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Just kidding. 342 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 It was like 80 or something. 343 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Still no smudges. 344 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 I've actually seen it. 345 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 I saw a lips. 346 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 You've seen it? 347 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Myself, yeah. 348 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Put it right there. 349 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Put it up? 350 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Put it up. 351 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Put it up? 352 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Yeah. 353 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 I was only kidding. 354 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 You were just serious. 355 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 It was great working with Taps. 356 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 While we were doing it, I was learning. 357 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Just listening, watching, and I was just going to... 358 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 I'll let you know what we found. 359 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Have a good night, guys. 360 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 You too. 361 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 All right, have a good one. 362 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And I got a call back from them and they said, 363 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 you know what? 364 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,000 We like you. 365 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Come along, we'll give you a trial run. 366 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 And, you know, we became good buddies. 367 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 You know, well, Dave Tango, to be honest with you, 368 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 he's really, he's become like the little brother of everybody. 369 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And he's just, he's a wonderful kid to have around. 370 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Now, he's fun. 371 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 He's high energy. 372 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 He's really, really passionate about the paranormal. 373 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 But above that, I mean, don't let that fool you. 374 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 He's got a brain that works very well and a sharp, 375 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 keen eye that saved us on the Queen Mary. 376 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Absolutely. 377 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Yeah. 378 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Dave and I went into room B340 to change the high eight tape. 379 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 And when we did, I noticed that the covers to the bed were down. 380 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 And I got pretty excited because I knew that's the kind of phenomena 381 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 we're trying to capture in that room. 382 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 This would be amazing if we get this on video. 383 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Now, I'm going to manually fast forward. 384 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Oh, what? 385 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Oh. 386 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Hey, are you and Dave going to be hanging in that room? 387 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 We came in this room and the bed was disheveled. 388 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 So, we're on the tape to the beginning, press play. 389 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 And I fast forward until I saw the bed and make it sound. 390 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Are you serious? 391 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Dead serious. 392 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 What are you talking about? 393 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 We see this. 394 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Let me see this. 395 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,000 It's freaking wild. 396 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 I know, but watch. 397 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 So, you see that? 398 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Yeah. 399 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Dave Tango brought this out. 400 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 That's because someone paused the tape. 401 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Pause and unpause would give you that little fluctuation. 402 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 What fluctuation? 403 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Watch. 404 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Look at the top of that. 405 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Look at the top of that comforter. 406 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 See it up and then all of a sudden it goes down and the tape flickers. 407 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 See? 408 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Oh, yeah. 409 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 That happens twice. 410 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 So, somebody pulled the cover somehow, pressed pause. 411 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Press pause and then came back here. 412 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Came back, pulled the covers again and kept doing that to give that effect. 413 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 So, that they wouldn't see him. 414 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 What? 415 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Put that tape in your I8 and hook it to the monitor downstairs and just play it. 416 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 That was good cash, man. 417 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Thank you. 418 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Nice job. 419 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Thanks. 420 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Chris, you're the newest member of TAPS with us tonight. 421 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 How long have you been with them? 422 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 I started them in June, I believe. 423 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:33,000 We headed out to Seattle and did a few cases out there in San Francisco and then headed back to the East Coast. 424 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,000 But Chris has been a close friend of Grant in mind for about seven or eight years now. 425 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Yeah. 426 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And she's always been trying to get involved and we're happy that her schedule had opened up and she was able to get in with us. 427 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Is there pressure as an investigator in training to perform at a certain level or is it more supportive than anything? 428 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 I think you're going to be a little nervous starting any new job. 429 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 It's just been a little harder with cameras being around. 430 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:03,000 We used to look like an idiot being the new person but being an idiot on cameras even worse. 431 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:13,000 I don't know, it's been a lot of fun and Tango and Steve, both of them, I mean they've always been there to answer any questions I've had or to back me up if I'm doing something wrong. 432 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 So it's been good. 433 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Well, when we come back we're going to look at the lighter side of the dark art of ghost hunting and talk a little bit about Steve's fear of spiders and heights and flying and dust and other things. 434 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Next on Ghost Hunters, Valations. 435 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 No one is safe from the Taps pranksters. 436 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Look at this. 437 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,000 A crew member is attacked in the second of Jason and Grant's favorite investigations. 438 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Right, right. 439 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Right, right. 440 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Get some light on it. 441 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Get some light on it. 442 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000 And later, tune. 443 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 What's that got? 444 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Everything that can go wrong will go wrong for Taps. 445 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Do you have signal? 446 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Nope. 447 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 How about now? 448 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Yeah. 449 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 What about now? 450 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Yeah, this is going to be a freaking headache. 451 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,000 All of this when we return to Ghost Hunters, Revelations. 452 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Supposedly they heard like a big party going on. 453 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Really? 454 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Maybe they met up here on the actual stage here. 455 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Lisa, can we continue? 456 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Okay. 457 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Oh, sh**. 458 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 He's got a wicked rash. 459 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Show her the rash. 460 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Down here, look at this. 461 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Oh, my God. 462 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 You're a sh**. 463 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Ryan. 464 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 What? 465 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Come here. 466 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 So, we're done. 467 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 I should have put my foot on the other end. 468 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Me and Grant have been hearing noises. 469 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 So, you guys can just hang there. 470 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 What was that? 471 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 What the hell was that? 472 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Stay low, stay low. 473 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 F**king bad is down here. 474 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000 F**k, f**k, f**k. 475 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Oh, my God, there's two of them now. 476 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 What's going on here? 477 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 You're going to get a good one. 478 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Okay, let's go. 479 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 What do you guys experience down there? 480 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Stephanie from Philly Road, she wants to know who's the biggest prankster in the group. 481 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Oh, I don't know. 482 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 That's tough. 483 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 That's just the stuff that made it to TV. 484 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 You know, Chris, the new blood, is she... 485 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I've gotten Steve and Tango. 486 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 You have, so she's already... 487 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 This is part of the training that you have to go through to become a full member of the group. 488 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Tango, Tantasia. 489 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Right, right. 490 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000 What is it? 491 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 I don't know where it is. 492 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Who made you wear it? 493 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Steve? 494 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Why is it...? 495 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 What is it? 496 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 What is it? 497 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 What do you mean? You can't look at it? 498 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Dude, you're a princess. 499 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Take it... it's a crown. 500 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Look at Tiara. 501 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 So much. 502 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Tango, you look good in the tiara. 503 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Thank you. 504 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 You shouldn't be shambled about that at all. 505 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 It wears you out. 506 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 One of the things that a lot of people want to know about is what you do when you're not 507 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 investigating or playing pranks on each other with taps. 508 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Grant, what's the most surprising thing that people don't know about you? 509 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,000 I like to write music on the piano, the guitar, I've been in bands. 510 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I like to... 511 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 I really like to cook, you know? 512 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 It sounds weird, but I come home and the way I relax is by cooking dinner and my wife loves it. 513 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 What about you? 514 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:06,000 I cook as well, but I mainly like to write kids books and sci-fi type stuff. 515 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Hike, fish, you name it. 516 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Steve, what about you? 517 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 When you're not wearing a taps cap, what can I find you doing out in the world? 518 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 I like my cats. 519 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Cats? How many cats do you have? 520 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000 What are their names? 521 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Those two. 522 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 My cat's name? 523 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 One is named Sassy Lashes. 524 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 I'm sorry, are you the cat named Sassy Lashes? 525 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Hold on, it gets better. 526 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 What's your name? 527 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 One is named Home Depot. 528 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 That's her name. 529 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,000 This probably goes without saying, but why do you have a cat named Sassy Lashes and why do you have a cat named Home Depot? 530 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Well, Sassy Lashes is a witch cat to everybody except for me. 531 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,000 She loves me more than life and she's always next to me, always kissing, hugging, all that stuff. 532 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,000 But to everybody else, she is an absolute witch, hisses for no reason. 533 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 And so that's where she gets that name, Sassy. 534 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,000 She's very, very sassy and that's her lashes when she hisses. 535 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000 And the other cat does a lot of home renovation. 536 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:09,000 No, but when I acquired my home, I was going to Home Depot quite often and she was always there looking at me. 537 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,000 So I said, that's your name and she likes it. 538 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,000 These are the hot button issues that people need to know about on the tap team. 539 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Tango, Chris, what about the two of you? 540 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Me, Magic. I was always doing Magic, Magic Shows, Magician, Contact Juggling. 541 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 You're saying Contact Juggling? 542 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Yes, it's a form of juggling but it never leaves your body. 543 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 It's kind of hard to explain, but... 544 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000 That just sounds like holding things. 545 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 It's like rolling the ball. 546 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 It just sounds like holding things. 547 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Yeah. 548 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Just, here we go. 549 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 But, yeah, but you can roll it around and... 550 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000 I see, I see. 551 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000 And what about you, Chris? 552 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 I'm kind of all over the place. 553 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,000 I've done genealogies since I was like 11, so that's how I got into the research for the guys. 554 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Any surprises in the family tree? 555 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 I do. I have one. 556 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Her name was Mary Dyer and she was hung on Boston Common for... 557 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,000 She was a Quaker but they blamed her for witchcraft and there's actually a statue of her in front of the state house in Boston. 558 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 That's amazing. 559 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:14,000 We're going to take a look now at the second of the top five favorite investigations as chosen by Jason and Grant. 560 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 This is the new Bedford Armory. 561 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Steve, why don't you tell me a little bit about what you think makes this choice appropriate for Best Oath Package. 562 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,000 There was so much activity at this place, just happening all night long. 563 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,000 And the degree of activity was pretty extreme and we had some very intense moments. 564 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:39,000 And some moments where we were all kind of like, is this really happening from cold spots, solidifying to hearing noises, seeing things, 565 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 to one of the production crew members actually having a physical contact with the spirit. 566 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,000 And I think it was a rewarding and almost a scary case for all of us. 567 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Well, let's take a look at what happened at TAPS when they visited the new Bedford Armory. 568 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Well, a second ago I just got a spike. It went up to 100 something degrees and went right back down. 569 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,000 The overall room temperature is about 63 degrees. 570 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Whoa. 571 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Wow. 572 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 You feel that cold spot right here, dude? 573 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Just now, my reading dropped down to 49. 574 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Are you still getting it? 575 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Yeah. 576 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 It's like all right right here. 577 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Come in and feel it. 578 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Whoa. 579 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Just feel that? 580 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Yep. 581 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,000 We're in the 60s again and I'm in the same spot I was a minute ago getting 20s. 582 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Right here. 583 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Holy s***, right f***ing here. 584 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Right here, Steve, right here. 585 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 It was getting cold, actual. 586 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Wait, right here. 587 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 Feel this, right here, right here. 588 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Oh my God, right here. 589 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 It's actually, it was actually chilly. 590 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I got goosebumps. 591 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Show yourselves so we can take a picture. 592 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Right? 593 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Are you okay? 594 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 What did you do? 595 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 What happened? 596 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Something just went right through me. 597 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 What? 598 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Thank you, all right? 599 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Get some light on, get some light on in here. 600 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Something threw him down, dude. 601 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 What do you feel when you got cold? 602 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:17,000 And something just right from the floor came up and just took me up and snapped my head back and took me off. 603 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Cold, Frank? 604 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 I'm gonna pop this off. 605 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Look, it's because you're breathing a little bit fast. 606 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Here it does those things. 607 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,000 My biggest concern right now is Frank's emotional state. 608 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,000 And a lot of times that happens when somebody's been physically touched by an entity or knocked down. 609 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000 A lot of times they get bits and pieces of that entity's life because they've been touched. 610 00:25:51,000 --> 00:26:01,000 You feel someone else's feelings, you feel you may see someone else's thoughts in that instant, but they burn into your brain. 611 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Me and Grant need to sit down with Frank and discuss what happened with him. 612 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000 It's probably gonna be like pulling teeth, but I really think we need to do it. 613 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Try to find out what he really experienced besides being pushed down. 614 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Did he see anything? Did he feel anything? 615 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 These are factors that are really gonna play in good right now. 616 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,000 And your audio tech from that last clip, Frank, what happened with him? Was he okay? 617 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Frank was really shaken up. It was a life-changing experience. 618 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:39,000 You're taking a man who was a firm skeptic, really a non-believer, and in one night, in one minute, he became a believer. 619 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:46,000 And he was shaken up. He did come back. He came back for a while, but he's a great guy. 620 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Did we catch it with another camera? 621 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 We got it. We got it. We got the full frontal. 622 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000 No way! Nice job! 623 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 I'm gonna show that right now. 624 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 You see the bag right there? 625 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Oh, there it goes. 626 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Then he falls. 627 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 His hands up on top of the boom mic. 628 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Right here. 629 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Check this out. Look. Bang. 630 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 He's holding the boom mic. 631 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 He's holding the boom mic. 632 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 He did both hands. 633 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000 That's insane. The whole bag moves. What do you think it was? 634 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 I don't know. I don't know. 635 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Wow. That's awesome. 636 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:33,000 And I think what was most impressive about this case was the constant activity and the fact that Frank, who was probably the biggest skeptic of the crew, had something happen to him that was, it was unmistakably, paranormal. 637 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000 He would come up with the craziest ideas sometimes to explain things away. 638 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 He was a firm skeptic. 639 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:47,000 And, you know, one of the superstitions there at the Armory was that, you know, if you fool around, this ghost will get you. 640 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,000 And earlier that night, Frank had gently tripped one of the camera guys. 641 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 So the National Guard guys who were there were just kind of like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. 642 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 And then this happens. 643 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,000 But all a skeptic is, is somebody who hasn't had their own paranormal experience yet. 644 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 And I don't think Frank's a skeptic anymore. 645 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000 I want you to focus more on the equipment bag right now, Frank. 646 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000 What hit you in the face was your equipment bag? 647 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Well, I mean, honestly, I don't, I don't feel that my audio gear hit me under the chin. 648 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 I mean, I probably would have had a mark or something. 649 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 You're going to see the thermal camera right there, Frank. 650 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 You're all in flame because you were struck. 651 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 That's why the skin's a different color because it's hot. 652 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,000 It's almost giving me, you know, pretty irrefutable proof that something did happen to me. 653 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Well, when we come back, we're going to take a look at what happens when the well oiled taps machine doesn't quite stay on the rails. 654 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000 More Ghost Hunters Revelations after this. 655 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Coming up on Ghost Hunters Revelations, it's taps unplugged. 656 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Andy! 657 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Memories from the first Ghost Hunters trip to Ireland. 658 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Dude, there's something standing right there. 659 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Oh, gosh! 660 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 What happened? 661 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 And a lighthearted look at Steve's worst nightmares. 662 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000 What the f***? 663 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Welcome back to Ghost Hunters Revelations, our special discussion with members of taps. 664 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 I'm your host, Josh Gates. 665 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Heather from Gainesville, Florida writes and wants to know what happens when something goes wrong on an investigation. 666 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Obviously, a lot of people running around in the dark, often in places that are not in good condition, a lot of equipment. 667 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 I would imagine things go wrong sometimes. 668 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,000 It happens all the time and that's the importance of having a good team is being adaptable like that. 669 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Just roll with it. 670 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Well, here are some moments that we've put together well to embarrass you, frankly. 671 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Tap's members, you may want to cover your eyes. 672 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Okay, so one camera this way, one camera that way. 673 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,000 All right. 674 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Do you have a signal? 675 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Nope. 676 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 How about now? 677 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000 No. 678 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 What about now? 679 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 No. 680 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,000 This is going to be a freaking headache. 681 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Where's camera one? 682 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 That still looks like we're picking up UHF. 683 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Look at camera one. 684 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 It's the cord. 685 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 No, it's not. 686 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Trust me, we've already looked through this. 687 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Where is my second power supply? 688 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Who mangled these cords? 689 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 This is retarded. 690 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 That's why I hate this pixelization. 691 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000 That's hard wiring. 692 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Yeah, it's just hard wiring that. 693 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Catwalk. 694 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Oh! 695 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 I don't know how we're going to sling a wire up there. 696 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000 We probably should have put it in his mouth and go up with it. 697 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 This is going to be a tough launch. 698 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000 You know what, Dave? 699 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Forget it. 700 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Just come down. 701 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Come down safely. 702 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000 All right. 703 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Dude! 704 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Who's that guy? 705 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Hey! 706 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000 What is it with you and this tape? 707 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000 I don't know. 708 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Pinch and pull. 709 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 I'm already getting it now. 710 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 No, no. 711 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 See? 712 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Look at that. 713 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Oh crap. 714 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Did you just move that camera by mistake? 715 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Darn. 716 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Whoa! 717 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Is the cord getting in the nuts? 718 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Oh yeah. 719 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Hello. 720 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Get trying to volume up. 721 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000 I need a plug. 722 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Wow! 723 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Did we lose the camera? 724 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Why did we just lose video? 725 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Get the frigging cameras going. 726 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Nope. 727 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Nothing, guys. 728 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Power's going out. 729 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Got what you got? 730 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000 That's got it. 731 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000 That was it. 732 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,000 The cord. 733 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Stop. 734 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Perfect. 735 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Keep going. 736 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Keep going. 737 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000 I'll set. 738 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000 You can flip my switch. 739 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000 I'll flip your switch. 740 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Andy! 741 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000 That shut everything down. 742 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 I remember that. 743 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Who gets blamed the most when things go wrong? 744 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,000 We're all really close friends and I can say something to Steve that if I said to somebody 745 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 who doesn't know me, they might really take that personal. 746 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 I can say something to Dave or Chris or Grant. 747 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 They're not going to take it personal because they know me. 748 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 It's just the way I am. 749 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,000 We've got a limited amount of time to get something done and we need to make that happen. 750 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000 So we've got to focus. 751 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 I'll lay it down a lot of times. 752 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Do you use razor hand? 753 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Yeah, he does it all the time. 754 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 It's how I get attention without screaming. 755 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Steve? 756 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000 In all the years I've worked with Jay. 757 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,000 People do say he seems gruff and whatnot, but I've really learned a few things about him. 758 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Don't lie to him and don't lose his equipment. 759 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 If you do his equipment, just don't lie to him about losing it. 760 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Don't be late. 761 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Don't be late. 762 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 If you stick to that, you're going to have no problems. 763 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 I've never had a problem in eight years. 764 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Steve, I'm actually glad you raised your hand because we've had a lot of questions about the things we can see on your arms. 765 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,000 A question came to us from Texas from a woman named Sue. 766 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 She wants to know the story with the tattoos. 767 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 I feel like more of them have appeared. 768 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000 Is that true? 769 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000 When we first started, they only had one little one over here and this was all clear. 770 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000 I've grown, yeah, I've got a lot more of my legs now. 771 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Is that your favorite? 772 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000 My favorite? 773 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Yeah. 774 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 I have a favorite one, but it's up here in my leg. 775 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000 It's a trick or treat. 776 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,000 A kid holding a trick or treat bang with candy and he was wearing a mask and all that stuff. 777 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 I'll show it to you if you want, but I'd have to pull down my shirt. 778 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000 That's a different show. 779 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,000 That's a different show. 780 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Who else is inked here? 781 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Tango, you've got some tattoos, right? 782 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Yeah. 783 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,000 What do you have tattoos? 784 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000 I've got both my arms and my whole back. 785 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Your whole back? 786 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Yeah, from the middle of my back all the way up to my shoulder. 787 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000 What's back there? 788 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000 I've got an angel and a demon on a scale and they're weighing each other out. 789 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Granule strike me as the inked type. 790 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 You know, I just can't commit myself to something. 791 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I know when I'm 80, I'm going to look at the saggy green tattoo and go, what the heck was I thinking? 792 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,000 I just... 793 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 You're trying to say my arms and legs are going to be sagging green? 794 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Yeah. 795 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 You're not going to be able to make it to 80. 796 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Tango, what do you got? 797 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 It's the tarot card of the magician. 798 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Tarot card. 799 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 That means a lot to me. 800 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 I just got it. 801 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 It's recent. 802 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Your first tattoo? 803 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 First tattoo, yes. 804 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Chris, any tattoos or are you with Grant? 805 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 I'm in the same boat as Grant. 806 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,000 I've always kind of wanted one, but I can't really pick something that I know I could deal with forever, so... 807 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 You don't need a big taps logo on your arm? 808 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 That brings up a funny point though. 809 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 The people have tattooed our logo on their body. 810 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 I've seen my face tattooed on a woman's leg. 811 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000 What's that like to go somewhere and see your image tattooed on someone's leg? 812 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000 It's not right, honestly. 813 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 It's very weird. 814 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 I mean, she was married. 815 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 She was never tattooed. 816 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000 I've been faced tattooed on a leg. 817 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Why is she a boy? 818 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,000 What is it about this topic, about the paranormal and the supernatural that you think attracts so many people? 819 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Why are people so interested in this? 820 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I think there's different reasons people get involved in this field, and a growing reason that we've been finding a lot of lately is... 821 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 people want to know that there's something after this. 822 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000 When they're getting to the end, they're getting ready to pass, that they know they're going somewhere. 823 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,000 It's a very important thing. 824 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Other people are getting involved because they've lost a loved one, 825 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 and they just want that to... they want to know that there's somewhere that they've gone. 826 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 They want to feel secure in knowing that. 827 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Do you find that a lot of the people who are interested in the work that you do to be religious people? 828 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 TAPS is a group. 829 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:59,000 We really don't play off the religious aspects, because, you know, we're going to all different people's homes, you know, Jewish, Christians, you name it. 830 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Most of the teachings that I was taught as a child in church totally change when you get involved in this field, 831 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 because you realize there is so much more that you were never taught. 832 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,000 I'm a religious guy, but my experience has kind of backed up what I've been taught. 833 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,000 And what bothers me is that when someone who's in a congregation is having experiences they can't explain, they get shunned. 834 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000 That's not right. 835 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 I mean, where's the love in that? 836 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Try and help these people figure it out. 837 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000 And why are you shunning them when all day you're talking about angels and demons and the Holy Ghost? 838 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 That's not right. 839 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 So what are those people doing to help these people? 840 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000 A lot of times not much. 841 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000 And that's where we come in, but we don't come in from a certain religious angle. 842 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000 We give them the information and they let it fit into their beliefs. 843 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:51,000 We're going to take a look now at the number three in the top five list of favorite investigations as chosen by Jason and Grant. 844 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000 And this is from their first trip across the Atlantic at Lep Castle. 845 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Dave Tango, you were on that trip. 846 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Dave, what was different about being in Europe? 847 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 The place is crazy. 848 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 The activity there was so high. 849 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000 I was with Dustin when he got knocked down by something that was not there. 850 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000 It scared the Bejeebies out of me, honestly. 851 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 And I had to switch my emotion to anger. 852 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000 It was just absolutely insane over there. 853 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Taps across the pond. 854 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Here's a look at their investigation of Lep Castle. 855 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Point five. 856 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Something's definitely in this area. 857 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 One point five, one point six. 858 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Did it just get really cold as just me? 859 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Dude, my hair is standing up. 860 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Look at that. 861 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000 What the f*** was that? 862 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,000 I just saw something over there. 863 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000 What the f*** was that? 864 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,000 I don't know, but something's here to play. 865 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Holy s***, man, finally. 866 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 I have these problems. 867 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Our barometric pressure's dropping. 868 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Something just moved back there. 869 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Something just moved. 870 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Yeah, very, very careful. 871 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Okay. 872 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000 The barometric pressure's lowering. 873 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000 That usually means something bad is going to happen. 874 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Yeah. 875 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Dude, I just want to pitch black in there. 876 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Easy, easy. 877 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Whoa. 878 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Holy s***. 879 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Dude, there's something standing right there. 880 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Come on, come on, come on. 881 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Dude, I just caught something on camera. 882 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 I just saw it. 883 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 The s*** was a shadow. 884 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Imagine being thrown down that shaft, dude. 885 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000 It hurts even thinking about it. 886 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Getting impaled. 887 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 It's starting to smell weird again. 888 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 I'm getting very uneasy in that client. 889 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000 Are you really? 890 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Yeah. 891 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Oh, f***. 892 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Are you all right? 893 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,000 What happened? 894 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Dude, f***, dude. 895 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000 What the hell happened? 896 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Dude, are you all right? 897 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Are you all right, dude? 898 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Yeah. 899 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000 I almost lost my shoulder. 900 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000 What the hell happened? 901 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Dude, it was just like something just knocked me over. 902 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Guys, what? 903 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000 What? 904 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 You just got punched. 905 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,000 You just got hit real bad. 906 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000 What? 907 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000 You just got smacked. 908 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000 You just got thrown down the ground. 909 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 What? 910 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Yeah. 911 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Maybe it's willing to show itself when people are alone. 912 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000 And I'm willing to go alone. 913 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000 You are, too. 914 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000 It's still okay. 915 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 To try to duplicate the attack at the bloody chapel, 916 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Grant and I felt that we needed to be up in the bloody chapel alone. 917 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 And buried back there, heading to command central, 918 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000 and listening to the wireless audio that was set up near us. 919 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000 All right, Grant's down in there. 920 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Okay. 921 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Well, I'm pretty much where people got killed and tortured. 922 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 There's a whole mixture of signs coming out. 923 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Okay, what's going on with Grant? 924 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Are you okay in there? 925 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000 What did you just hear up there, and I? 926 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Okay, I can hear footsteps. 927 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Is anyone coming up the stairs? 928 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000 No. 929 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 I think it's going to make a head to... 930 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000 This one. 931 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Oh, dear God. 932 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000 You okay? 933 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Yeah. 934 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 The heck is going on? 935 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000 I slipped downstairs. 936 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 I'm a heart attack in private. 937 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Tango, in this clip, we see this really dramatic moment 938 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 where Dustin is knocked to the ground. 939 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000 What aren't we seeing on that episode of Ghost Hunters? 940 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000 When that happened, I mean, I saw his feet, 941 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 literally, like, lift up and he got thrown. 942 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000 He didn't trip. 943 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000 This guy did not trip. 944 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000 I saw him fall with force. 945 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 And I swung the camera, tried to catch it as much as I could, 946 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 and I saw it. 947 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 For something to lift him, he's a big guy. 948 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 And he got lifted up and thrown to the ground, 949 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000 cold from head to toe, and that scared me. 950 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 And I didn't know how to handle it, so I just got angry. 951 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 And, you know, that's what happened. 952 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 And on that same thread, you know, we see Barry running up. 953 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 It looks like he's trying to catch up with the noise that he hears 954 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 or some piece of evidence that he thinks he has. 955 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000 What's going on there? It's a little unclear. 956 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Barry's belief system, you know, he was running up there 957 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000 because he thought that we were in danger 958 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 and wanted to come up and save us. 959 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 The difference is we were up there hoping that something would happen. 960 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 If it knocks us down, that's great. 961 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 We've been able to document it, to catch it. 962 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000 We're all firm believers, but Barry has a tendency 963 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 to be a little more protective or a little more concerned 964 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 for his safety in those matters. 965 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 I couldn't hear anything when I was down in there. 966 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000 If I had known what was going on, I would have been laying at the base 967 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000 of the ladder acting like I was unconscious, just to see what Barry would do. 968 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 But, unfortunately, I couldn't tell what was going on. 969 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Right. Jason Grant taps across the pond. 970 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000 Was it a different feeling for you guys being in Europe? 971 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 It definitely was. You've got to remember, the difference is, 972 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 over there, if your place is not haunted, 973 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 you're sort of the strange guy on the block. 974 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 So, totally opposite. 975 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 They just have so much more respect for the dead 976 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 and, you know, for the hauntings. 977 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 More Ghost Hunters revelations after this. 978 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Next, on Ghost Hunters revelations, Steve meet the creepy crawlies. 979 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Spider-bug word. 980 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,000 That's f***ing... 981 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Creepy Crawlies meet Steve. 982 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000 There it is. 983 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 The countdown of Jason and Grant's favorite investigations 984 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 continues with a trip to Florida. 985 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 It was amazing. It was just a textbook case. 986 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 Oh, sh***. What the f***? All the way up. All the way up. 987 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Did you see it? 988 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000 And later, the future of taps revealed 989 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000 with a special preview of upcoming investigations. 990 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000 There was massive EMF. 991 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 A little like Indiana Jones. 992 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000 Welcome back to Ghost Hunters revelations. 993 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 I'm your host, Josh Gates. 994 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000 We are talking with Jason Haas, Grant Wilson, and members of TAPS. 995 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Looking at these clips from your trip to Europe, 996 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000 it brings us to a question that Caffe in New Jersey asked, 997 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 as well as literally dozens of other people, 998 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 about Steve, about your phobias. 999 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Let's start with fears about creepy crawlies. 1000 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 What is it with spiders? 1001 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 Spiders, I don't really know what it is, 1002 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 but they put a fear into me like nothing else. 1003 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 If I saw one up in the ceiling there, 1004 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000 I couldn't sit here probably. 1005 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000 I would have to go to a different room. 1006 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Here's a look at some of Steve's phobias 1007 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,000 as we've seen them on episodes of Ghost Hunters. 1008 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Everybody says, why are you afraid of trees? 1009 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 They don't get it. 1010 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000 The trees are crawling with insects, vermin. 1011 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 I guarantee you, on this one tree, 1012 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000 there's at least 3,000 spiders. 1013 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 I would bet my life. 1014 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000 3,000? 1015 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000 This is an abomination. 1016 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Oh, my God. 1017 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000 It's big. 1018 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 What the f***? 1019 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 That one's alive. 1020 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 There it is. 1021 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Oh, shi... 1022 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000 Spider web, spider web, spider web. 1023 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,000 What is doing on it? 1024 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Oh, my God. 1025 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Oh, no. 1026 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Oh, dig. 1027 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000 Oh, f***, what? 1028 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000 What the f***? 1029 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000 What? 1030 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Spamming. 1031 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,000 What? 1032 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000 What? 1033 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Oh, f***. 1034 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000 What? 1035 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000 What? 1036 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000 What? 1037 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000 Don't even do that. 1038 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000 And don't do that. 1039 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000 What's the f***? 1040 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000 What? 1041 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000 What? 1042 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000 What? 1043 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000 What? 1044 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000 What? 1045 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000 What? 1046 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 What? 1047 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,000 What? 1048 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 What the f*** is this red and a house of worship? 1049 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Flushing my son. 1050 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 You're forgiven. 1051 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000 You're forgiven. 1052 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000 4-8. 1053 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Well you know, 1054 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000 watching these clips, 1055 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 obviously everybody has a lot of fun 1056 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000 and you're very good natured about your phobias. 1057 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 But I want to talk a little bit more 1058 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000 about your fear of flying. 1059 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000 What was it like to miss out 1060 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 on the taps trip to Europe? 1061 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000 From how I understand it, 1062 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000 you made an effort to go on that trip right? 1063 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 I did make an effort. 1064 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000 As a ghost hunter, 1065 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,000 What would I want nothing more than to go to Ireland and investigate flipping castles? 1066 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,300 I mean that's what I dreamed about since I was six years old 1067 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,840 We're going to Ireland. We need you there, man. I don't fly. Yeah, you know that I drive everywhere 1068 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,720 I've been to two different physicians for this. I've been to see 1069 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,500 Hypnotist I've been to an actual psychiatrist and nothing has worked. See in my mind all these people are gonna die and no one's flying and if I'm on the plane 1070 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,960 I'm one of them. Unless you have the fear. I don't think you'll ever understand it 1071 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,320 We were there with Steve during the whole thing and he got on the plane. He sat down 1072 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:38,900 We got him to calm down and it was when the people stopped filing in that he knew the doors were gonna close and 1073 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,400 You know, honestly, no offense, but he turned into like a little kid there 1074 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,880 He was he was upset and he was begging me. You can't make me do this 1075 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,560 I'm not making you do anything Steve 1076 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:53,820 Everyone gathered together even the people in the airlines to get him to go and finally we just said you know what we can't we can't do this 1077 00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:58,460 For Steve because it's the six-hour flight. What about your fear of heights? I'm an extreme fear of heights 1078 00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:01,500 It's hard for me to you know, I can't even go up a step ladder to be honest with you 1079 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,380 But I do okay with it and to be honest with you 1080 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:10,860 I was a lot worse before before joining taps because Jason and Grant have a way of pushing me with heights 1081 00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:14,940 I don't know why it's heights. I had to push me so much, but they have a way of pushing me 1082 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:20,300 But in a cunning way almost to help me get over, you know, like I know you can do it 1083 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:24,860 You never let me down. Let's get over it and then afterwards I realized, you know, it wasn't so bad 1084 00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:25,580 I'll never do it again 1085 00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:30,900 And I definitely think that that's where that family thing comes into play because whether he overcomes this phobia or not 1086 00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:37,940 Will work with Steve to accommodate him to get him to these locations whether it be on a boat or whatever and to that end of the 1087 00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:40,940 You know, obviously this group supporting you so much 1088 00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:46,500 We're gonna take a look at the St. Augustine lighthouse where Steve you actually managed to climb up to the top 1089 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:51,660 What is it about the St. Augustine lighthouse that puts it in the number two position of your top five investigations? 1090 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:57,340 Well, I think mainly everything that was experienced whether it be from taps members or production 1091 00:44:57,380 --> 00:45:03,700 We were able to back up with footage. We caught shadows. We caught things lean over the railings. We caught voices 1092 00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:07,220 It was an ideal case. We weren't even supposed to originally investigate there 1093 00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:09,620 We weren't even supposed to put a camera in the lighthouse 1094 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:14,060 We just did that on a whim and that's where all the stuff went down for a few hours 1095 00:45:14,620 --> 00:45:19,500 Everybody who had an experience it was amazing. It was it was just a textbook case. It's beautiful 1096 00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:22,880 Let's take a look at taps investigation of the St. Augustine lighthouse 1097 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:36,660 Well me and Grant were in the lighthouse we'd hear steps and voices coming from above us 1098 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:40,660 There was something there and it was moving it kept us on the move 1099 00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:46,180 I 1100 00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:58,660 Were able to witness a shadow back up under a set of lights 1101 00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:11,020 Sound like a lady said help me oh 1102 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:13,900 My gosh 1103 00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:19,740 As we continued to investigate we went all the way up to the top to make sure there was no one playing tricks on us 1104 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:22,500 It's freaking padlocked. So is that boom boom 1105 00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:30,420 Me great I'm gonna take a break for a few and we're gonna send it Dustin and Brian 1106 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,360 See maybe if they can get some EVP's while they're in there 1107 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,660 That was definitely female voice 1108 00:47:02,060 --> 00:47:07,260 What's the one moment from your investigation at the St. Augustine lighthouse that stands out for you Grant 1109 00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:12,380 Honestly has to be when Jay and I were walking up the stairs and it was probably 10 feet above us 1110 00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:17,180 We saw a figure grab the railing and look down at us and where most people run away 1111 00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:21,220 Of course we took after it because our first thought is not we just saw a ghost 1112 00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:24,380 It's we just saw there's someone in here as an intruder 1113 00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:37,860 We came up to the top with the whole idea that nothing could get by us 1114 00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:48,880 The motion light went off it was an extreme shock 1115 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,500 We we had been walking around in the dark for the last hour well that kills the whole sneak up 1116 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,120 So come in see it watch watch take off 1117 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080 When you were up there 1118 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520 We saw we was pacing that's what we saw a patient 1119 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,320 I 1120 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:21,640 You're actually gonna see is a little disturbance here and then something peek over the railing see there 1121 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,280 Dude that's nuts 1122 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:31,760 What goes through your mind at that moment? It's interesting when the whole concept of whoa, maybe that's paranormal 1123 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,280 It always comes at the weirdest times like we were totally convinced there was someone in there 1124 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,040 So you think you're chasing a person and when you get to the top 1125 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,600 There was a motion sensor floodlight that kicked on when we came in with in range 1126 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,440 If it was a person that would have gone off long before we got there 1127 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,520 So whatever it was we were seeing wasn't being picked up by that motion sensor 1128 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,040 When we return to ghost hunters revelations 1129 00:48:54,600 --> 00:49:00,880 Jason and grand take us back to the beginning. I had my own personal experience back when I was about 1819 1130 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,520 And later the taps team looks to the future with a sneak preview of some upcoming investigations 1131 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,840 This room right here. Oh my god 1132 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:26,520 Welcome back to ghost hunters revelations. I'm your host Josh Gates. We are talking with Jason Hawes Grant Wilson and members of taps 1133 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,140 Jamie from Myrtle Point, Oregon writes in that the thing that he likes the most about taps is that you approach each 1134 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,120 Investigation from a skeptics point of view and I think that a lot of the popularity of taps among people who might otherwise be skeptical 1135 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,320 About a show like this is that you do approach it from a real grounded point of view 1136 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:44,760 well 1137 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,720 we believe that over 80% of all claims can be disproved and that's the way most of our cases have always been 1138 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,320 Anybody can go in a place and say the place is haunted 1139 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,480 But where's the proof to solidify those claims and that's not doing anything about hurting the field 1140 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,480 So we're going in we're trying to figure out what's really going on because a lot of times the people are calling you and believe 1141 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,160 They have a problem whether they do or they don't you're there to help them out and that's that's the main reason 1142 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,080 Yeah, you got to check all the pressures at the door 1143 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,240 You've got to just go in there and let the house prove to you what it is if it's haunted or not 1144 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,080 I would like to know the percentage of the places that you have investigated 1145 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,320 That you've been able to as the one of Gemma says debunked 1146 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,920 We've been able to debunk probably about 80% of what we get this could easily be somebody just having their hand on there 1147 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,240 Say of course we have one piece that I don't even think you're gonna be with this room 1148 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:38,400 I'm gonna go frame my frame for this because it's very fast go up one more in the evidence 1149 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,160 We got we think the flash was right about here 1150 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,480 This is just an IR illuminator and we were using this during filming 1151 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,080 I am John Stone. I think we got our ghost boys 1152 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:55,000 That really show but to make of it charting new territory hit that mirror you're getting lights over there 1153 00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,720 Could just be the darkness you see into the other side of the windows exactly that's what we give us a little more to think about 1154 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,480 That very well could be what she's seeing. I think we might be on some 1155 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,920 See look look look just I'm gonna look out the windows. All right. Here comes a car hang on. You see it 1156 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,680 No, it didn't do that. Sorry. I am blocking the window. Here comes a car. Let me tell me if it happens. Yeah, there it goes right there 1157 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,040 I 1158 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,720 Excellent that was a good idea guys 1159 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,280 One or two 1160 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:39,360 So for people who aren't familiar with the show ghost hunters or with taps someone may be watching who 1161 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:46,040 Has a haunted house right now and is having a problem. Does taps charge to go and investigate? No, we never have 1162 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,520 We we look at it as the rich the poor everybody has paranormal problems 1163 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,200 First off of we're charging. We'd only be able to help the people go to Ford our services 1164 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,560 Secondly, how do you charge for something scientifically? You can't even prove exists? 1165 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:04,000 Well, there's an issue there too because if you charge money analysis and there are expected results 1166 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600 the payment we really receive is a chance to investigate and 1167 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,280 In help 1168 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,040 I 1169 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,740 One of the questions that we got from hundreds of people who wrote into sci-fi comm 1170 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:39,200 You both have had some sort of paranormal experience, but I don't think you've really shared at least on the show 1171 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,000 What those experiences were is it something that you are willing to talk about? No, not really 1172 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,720 Well, you know, honestly, I'm resting to talk about I just it's a personal thing 1173 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,080 I've been married for it'll be 11 years in February and you know 1174 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,840 My wife found out what it was about two two and a half years ago. So good luck, buddy 1175 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,840 Do you envision? 1176 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,760 Do you envision a day when you think you're gonna want to share those stories or is this something you think that? 1177 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,840 You'll never really talk about publicly. I'm not sure right now. There's really no reason for me to 1178 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:17,520 It's just it's a personal experience that guided me into a field where now we're able to help so many people 1179 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000 That have their own issues 1180 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,080 Steve what about you my first panel experience 1181 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,600 I was probably about 15 was in a cemetery and I'm sitting there 1182 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,120 I was on I felt a weird presence like I shouldn't be here 1183 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,440 I felt a presence like something was saying hey, man, well, whatever you're doing here 1184 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,560 It's time for you to get out and I felt really uneasy and so I got up and I'm starting to look around and 1185 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:46,540 I swear I felt something grab my leg and and and take me for a tumble like I actually fell to the ground and 1186 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,780 You know back then I didn't have the the mindset, you know, let's go after let's see what's really going on 1187 00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:57,400 I mean I got petrified. I screamed and ran out of there left my camera and everything there and 1188 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,920 That was it that was my very first time and and Dave what about you your first paranormal experience when was it? 1189 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,840 Well, I mean like unlike these guys like I didn't have something to bring me into it, you know 1190 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,160 But being with these guys I've had a bunch like I mean like like not something yet 1191 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,280 That's like, you know, I fell back not like Dustin when he got hit by something. I want that Chris 1192 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,560 What was your first paranormal experience? I had one in a graveyard. I felt like something was following me 1193 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,840 I was actually there with a friend of mine. He was way at the other end 1194 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,140 We're looking for a headstone because I'm into genealogy. I was on one end 1195 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:38,100 He was on the other we're gonna meet in the middle if we couldn't find the name we'd start on the back half 1196 00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:43,700 But it was weird because every time we stepped we hear like five or six steps behind us 1197 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:46,980 And later on I found out he had the same experience on the other side 1198 00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:53,460 And it was so clear that it's like we kept turning around to talk to who we thought was each other and 1199 00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:56,420 We're still on opposite ends of the graveyard 1200 00:54:56,620 --> 00:55:01,100 Does that kind of thing on nerve you or is that I mean obviously you have this for this real interest in this 1201 00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,380 Or does it really am I excited you? 1202 00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:06,300 It definitely excited me. I went back there a couple weeks later with my dad 1203 00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:09,420 I guess he wanted to check it out, but we didn't get the same same effect 1204 00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:15,420 So it kind of validated it a little bit more for me to not get the same thing to happen 1205 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:20,660 But Jason and Grant in the last three years since this show has been on you have all these people that are aware of what you do 1206 00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:25,620 You have fans all over the world. How has it changed you? Well, I don't think it's really changed us as people 1207 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:30,700 I think it's really helped change the field. There's no place. I'd rather be than home and 1208 00:55:31,180 --> 00:55:36,100 You know, it's tough when on Halloween your four-year-old son says hey, what are you gonna be for Halloween and your answer is gone? 1209 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:39,500 I'm not gonna be here. That's not easy. It's not easy at all 1210 00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:46,620 But the field needs a jumpstart and I think we're all ready to you know to sacrifice to do that and thank goodness 1211 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,620 We have the support from our families 1212 00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:53,340 Guys over there aren't there? There's just something behind them. Just a hair 1213 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:55,700 We wind that just a hair 1214 00:55:55,780 --> 00:56:00,940 Jane I would do in a thermal sweep and we could clearly see our guys on the thermal imaging screen 1215 00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:05,620 Okay, so our guys are over here 1216 00:56:05,620 --> 00:56:09,100 Yeah, they're right there and we've got three things walking over here look at this 1217 00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,100 There's definitely something falling on skies 1218 00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:18,220 I definitely feel like something goes our hair. Yes, you get that like your 1219 00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:21,020 uninvited guests 1220 00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:23,260 When we return to ghost hunters 1221 00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:24,780 revelations 1222 00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:28,900 The taps team reveals their all-time favorite investigation 1223 00:56:30,940 --> 00:56:32,940 This glass I actually prove 1224 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:43,460 Welcome back to ghost hunters revelations our special discussion with members of taps 1225 00:56:43,860 --> 00:56:50,500 Typically, what's the setup when you do an investigation in terms of the number of people we don't see like it when we head in usually 1226 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:57,140 We've only got a cameraman with us and I think that that's very important because that limits any problems of human contamination 1227 00:56:57,340 --> 00:57:01,660 When you're inside a building one thing that has to be remembered that when you're watching the show sure 1228 00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:05,100 It's black and white, but we're in pitch black most of the time now 1229 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,180 That's hard enough for us 1230 00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:11,940 But these guys are walking backwards sometimes up downstairs in the dark and I think we all 1231 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,340 Really appreciate what they go through because they sign on to do ghost hunting 1232 00:57:15,340 --> 00:57:20,500 They signed on to film a show a question from Fred in Toledo, Ohio. What's the future of taps? 1233 00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:24,540 We're gonna just keep on doing what we're doing case by case we plug forward 1234 00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,460 Coming up all new episodes of ghost hunters 1235 00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:37,620 You saw what appeared to be a person hunched over scurry through a little corridor and the most terrifying locations yet 1236 00:57:38,620 --> 00:57:41,300 It just did not feel right at all. If anyone hear me 1237 00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:44,780 We'll take you inside an 18th century fortress 1238 00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:52,380 This is case fate number 11. No one else has been down there taps is the first a hundred and thirty something years since anybody was in there 1239 00:57:53,740 --> 00:57:55,740 Feel a little like Indiana Jones 1240 00:57:55,740 --> 00:58:00,980 Right. We just saw something that almost appeared like a shadow walking towards you away a 1241 00:58:02,380 --> 00:58:07,380 Notorious death row prison. I said about seven people been executed right here in this gallows 1242 00:58:08,980 --> 00:58:12,860 There was sort of the shape of a person blacked out like a shadow 1243 00:58:13,460 --> 00:58:20,500 And as I pan my light back across it wasn't there anymore and into the nightmares of a four-year-old girl 1244 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:26,220 She's terrified. She has reported seeing three separate spirits. We got to get out there now for this family 1245 00:58:30,180 --> 00:58:35,780 Why can you show yourself to a child but you can't come and talk to us is it because maybe you're weak 1246 00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:38,300 There was massive EMF new cases 1247 00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:40,460 Oh, oh, here's moved out here 1248 00:58:47,180 --> 00:58:54,340 New evidence you got it. Yep, that's friggin messed up. Was that somebody moving or something moving new scares 1249 00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,140 Film in this room right here 1250 00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:02,380 What oh my gosh the freaking me about crab my pants the how was that? 1251 00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:04,900 They're taps and they're here to help 1252 00:59:05,740 --> 00:59:07,240 I 1253 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:15,020 Chance you run out of places to investigate never I doubt that very highly well with three seasons and over 50 episodes of Ghost Hunters 1254 00:59:15,020 --> 00:59:19,420 behind them we've now arrived to Jason and Grant's selection for their favorite investigation and 1255 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:22,340 It is the Stanley Hotel investigation 1256 00:59:22,340 --> 00:59:28,300 Tell me why this stands out above all the other cases you've done as your favorite. Yeah, usually 1257 00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:32,460 On a case you'll have one defining piece of evidence 1258 00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:39,820 We had several there and we've since gone back probably a total of maybe six times to the Stanley doing retreats and things 1259 00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:42,420 We've never been let down every time something happens 1260 00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:47,180 We had a fold-up table lean up against the wall that lifted itself up and fell over we had chairs move 1261 00:59:47,180 --> 00:59:49,180 We've had faucets turn on and off 1262 00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:56,340 Voices it's incredible the thing that's interesting about it though is that the reports that brought to us 1263 00:59:56,980 --> 01:00:00,020 There's been no real tragedy in the hotel itself 1264 01:00:00,260 --> 01:00:01,460 No 1265 01:00:01,460 --> 01:00:02,540 It's happy things 1266 01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:08,260 I mean it's as creepy as it sounds kids playing in the hall and people dancing in a ballroom, but it's still active 1267 01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:11,060 We're not sure why strange happenings at the Stanley Hotel 1268 01:00:11,060 --> 01:00:14,980 Here's a look at Jason and Grant's pick for their favorite taps investigation 1269 01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:18,940 Look at that G 1270 01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,500 The Stanley Hotel, it's right out of the shining man 1271 01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:32,020 You 1272 01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:47,140 Not sure what happened 1273 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:51,540 They heard the closet open glass actually broke 1274 01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:55,060 There's a piece 1275 01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:57,580 This 1276 01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:04,420 So then in the evidence review at the Stanley Hotel 1277 01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:08,420 That's when you captured the the door actually shutting again in your room 1278 01:01:08,420 --> 01:01:13,940 Yeah, because I put the camera down on the table in the room just covering the door because I wanted to see if I was able to 1279 01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:16,180 catch anything going in and out of the door and 1280 01:01:17,860 --> 01:01:20,660 I'd fallen back asleep while during that time 1281 01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:25,380 And we were able to actually catch the door close and latch itself closed 1282 01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:43,780 Last year we did the live Halloween show there and on live TV 1283 01:01:44,140 --> 01:01:51,780 The viewers were able to see and hear everything we heard and at one point Grant and I were in the basement and the tunnels that 1284 01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:56,980 Actually run under the Stanley and we caught what sounded like a child a female child 1285 01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,500 say hello 1286 01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:05,860 Twice and then laugh and there was nobody above us. There's nobody around us everything had been 1287 01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:10,980 Blocked off so there could be no human contamination. The place is just incredible really is 1288 01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:13,620 We went to room 1302 1289 01:02:14,180 --> 01:02:16,180 We all felt that this was different 1290 01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:29,220 The strange feeling there's nothing in here. I don't know why I just feel like I'm being watched 1291 01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:33,300 So anyone else in here with us I 1292 01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:37,740 Just don't I think I would have trouble relaxing to go to sleep in this room 1293 01:02:38,540 --> 01:02:40,540 It's also very very quiet 1294 01:02:41,180 --> 01:02:43,180 I 1295 01:02:43,180 --> 01:02:50,340 Was in the process of trying to change the tape in the mini DV 1296 01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:56,580 I asked the production cameraman Kendall if he could use the light from his LCD screen to illuminate the table so I could see what I was doing 1297 01:02:59,660 --> 01:03:01,660 What happened 1298 01:03:01,660 --> 01:03:03,660 Well the whole table just moved 1299 01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:07,020 Who's in here with us 1300 01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:13,660 So what's the story with this table moving I don't know I mean it was so weird 1301 01:03:13,660 --> 01:03:16,220 I felt like there was something just like did not want us there 1302 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:22,700 It was just so creepy and then like five seconds later the table moved and the chair moved the feeling in the room as validated by 1303 01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:28,940 Tango and Lisa that were there was just something was gonna happen you get a knack for that and then something did all right 1304 01:03:28,940 --> 01:03:33,140 It's been a terrific hour. I want to thank you all for your candor. It's been a wonderful talking to you 1305 01:03:33,140 --> 01:03:35,860 We look forward to future investigations 1306 01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:39,740 I'm Josh Gates. Thanks for joining us tonight at Ghost Tenders revelations. Good night 1307 01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:07,860 You